Who needs brakes anyway?

Get SI units and you can sell this n... or trade it for higher RPMs

I guess it's just wait and see then... (goes hiding ashamed of pointless pun)

This is exactly what you could get using the defunct Ghostcar app, when you tuned it correctly (remove car and add this line within the parameters available).
This app was useful for me to understand my mistakes during the replays (back in demo...), so might be a good help in the training sessions for real beginners / hotlapping offline.

Wow posting interrupted by work again... now my reply is way too late, see far above for the question related

Last edited by Mille Sabords, Mon, 3 Dec 2007 12:20. Reason : late

...and be able to set that using a script for each car
One can dream...
BTW I decreased it to 2.xx and this makes it possible (if barely) to drive LX cars with a mouse, and by not bothering to change it back I discovered that my handling of all cars was much smoother this way. I also managed a better PB at BL1R / XRG!

So this is an unlikely to happen request but would be good. What would be even better is (as already asked for...) mouse to steer and apply throttle, brake on a button.
The answer you will receive is use a wheel and pedals though.

Quote from agm_ultimatex :

honestly guys, dont bash the cruise servers. I like them for their social experience, as well as getting some practice with certain cars, and not feeling any pressure or competition.

Feeling pressure, fighting for position (any position!) is what makes my LFS time online a good time.
I guess my profile does not correspond to cruise server (numerous) userbase's then.
I spent some time reading the CLC website stuff and am amazed at what you've achieved, congratulations. I will probably never use this but it still seems to be a nice bit of programming.
I approve cruise servers as there is obviously a public for these (full servers! wow) so it keeps LFS community happy and alive.

Good news overall, thanks devs!
One little thing lurking in the back of my mind... If I remember correctly at the time of the introduction of the ballast / handicap system plan was to use it as a temporary balancing until next incompatible (physics) patch. Quid es? Anybody risking a guess regarding this controversial topic?

I don't get it. What is the benefit of doing this? The more the merrier, I'm very happy these days to see the race 2 server populated, I even got in the situation when the race was full - could not join!
That means I can enjoy good and clean battles back for the entire race down the grid where I belong.
You could answer more points - yes, that could be but silver license grants enough points for race 2 so points chase should be over by then? Don't look for points, let them come to you by clean racing and enjoy the trip - that is the race that matters not the end position.

Thanks all for the races in race 2, much more difficult for me while cleaner - real fun!

Quote from gohfeld23 :

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However, my GF/fiance has fudged up more then one race for me with her touchy/feely/kissing while I race stuff.

While she's correct that it's just a SIM, it's bloddy LFS woman!
Let the man be. :P

That is also my problem, my wife especially enjoys sticking her head in front of the screen when I spend more than 1 hour on LFS. No leagues for me but pickup races using only mouse while having a wife and kids are still better than league races with wheel and no more wife and kids
Only a game but a very good one, the only one I play regularly since teenage geekness.

Quote from Dajmin :

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Cause here it just looks like a huge block of text that almost nobody will read. And at this rate will also get the thread locked.

Comment not needed. Now please go back to work (or whatever you were doing ) and let me read. Thanks!

That's getting slightly off topic, but my day was going well before receiving excessive information regarding donkeys, midgets and mods. Disturbing images (not necessarily in the above order) float around my head when I should be working like a madman to increase my boss profit.

Note to myself: stop browsing improvements suggestions at work. Or do it later in the day?

Oh yes that was fun, spent some time there - LX6 South City is an awesome combo!
I had good fun and the race was close until the wall jumped at me (again)
Here is a set I found on the forums a while ago, by biggie, for those like me who have no time or do not grasp the art of setting up a car

Thank you for the server!

Last edited by Mille Sabords, Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:36.

OK at work safe now...
Snow today in Switzerland, and a few times on the road to work I thought (not to the point of saying it aloud, some hope left) $report while admiring the witless manoeuvers of fellow commuters.
Too much CTRA maybe? My wife also thinks so

Thanks a lot!

Yes please - would be nice to watch!
Thanks

Thank you CTRA, keep up the good work - I hope it pays in the end...
I got a silver license and found out what you have achieved with insim on race 2 server, amazing!
I had no idea you could build something like this with insim, all I can say is wow.
I find this and ZWR baby r ideas are great additions to LFS, for and by the community, you have all my support and respect for that.

...again

This will work when you accelerate but under braking I can not make it... direction gets wrong
Alternate suggestion:
Decrease button control rate as suggested in this post:

Quote from gohfeld23 :

I was a mouse racer for a long time and I do have some tips that will make it much more controllable.

First off, map your keyboard to brake and throttle for your left hand. Now map your mouse buttons to shift up/down.
This has a dual purpose.
First it gives you more control and less chances to fumble buttons trying to brake, accelerate and steer.
Second has to do with computer drivers and potential hardware restrictions.
Trying to steer brake and stabilise the car with the mouse at the same time can have response issues between the mouse, drivers and your PC.
By separating the important commands to 2 devices (Kb and Mouse), 2 different sets of drivers take care of only one input at a time...I hope this makes sense.

Another extremely important setting for RWD is Button Control Rate.
In LFS, its set to 4 by default. This is too responsive for powerful RWD cars as the power is either full on or full off.
Lower this to mid to low 2's and hitting the button will smoothly apply throttle in LFS.
This helps greatly in corner outs and braking without locking. Just make sure to brake a tad earlier this way, or you will overshoot the corner.

Good luck. I hope this helps a bit.

I found this useful

Quote from word. :

CTRA sucks since they got rid of TBOs for silver licence drivers, so I don't race there any more.

/OT Good news for you, apparently it's back (Silver - TBO). Check the CTRA section I think it was reintroduced last week or so.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=32046 more OT... How do you post a link that works? sorry for noob question

Last edited by Mille Sabords, Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:37. Reason : link

I tend to have less T1 problems when I drive XRG on CTRA - better start means you have some (limited) space when you reach T1, unless of course you want to gain more than 1-2 positions before reaching T1.
This way I can brake a little bit earlier and get a faster exit to get away from the pack and not lose 25 meters to the top 10.
When racing the same cars I have no solution except awareness / too slow T1 does not work well!
My biggest concern is when there is a yellow at T1 - no idea what to do, slowing down (lifting) as should be expected ends up in crash more often than full throttle gambling in short races. Probably more practice needed!
Playing on full demo servers also help awareness, there the range of skills is very wide and you often get race starts training due to "T1 crash - xxx voted to restart" 5 times in a row

I also voted for no supers on road cars but tweaker's idea sure seems entertaining... +1

This is more or less what ZWR achieves with the 45% restricted UFR, fun to drive!

Quote from Dru :

At Aston I was hit out end of lap one/beginning of lap two by a 'lunger'

how you can think to pass a guy on the limit after going the same speed down the stright and being 5 car lengths behind at the point he brakes at 75 metres is un-belivable - still those things will be ironed out and if those sort of things continue to occur the those type of drivers will be asked not take part.

After that i was dead last. i came up to Jamie B at the point before Eau rouge, the yello flag came out, i stepped off the gas so not to pass her but she did too ~(Despite it being clear ahead of here) and we promptly crash

People need to gain race craft skills, sure there will be times when people hit accidently , but over the next 4 weeks we need to stamp out the stupid incidences and also sort out the bad drivers.

mostly the racing was great 3/4 wide going along the straights and at least 2 wide going around corners, if you miss your chance to overtake the guy in front, chances are the guy behind will get the run on you.

This series will be great as soon as we've ironed out a few little bugs....


btw practice makes perfect

Regards,


Dru.

Sorry to confess I was your "lunger"
As you can see if you check my stats I am not experienced nor fast, and my mistake was due to poor car handling / racing in close pack (and of course lack of experience in handling pressure). I was unfortunately not even trying to pass on the inside but rather missed the turn and braking point, shame on me.
I have no intention to participate in the league because my driving is not consistent enough for such an adventure and also because my LFS time is erratic.
Anyways this car is a fantastic idea and quite accessible, so thank you ZWR for organising this event.

Please accept my sincere apologies for your race, I hope it was the only racing incident I caused apart from rolling the car all by myself last lap, last turn

PS You were not dead last... I did wait for you to re-pass .

Quote from AndroidXP :

Any chance of a transcript? I'm at work (*cough*) and can't listen to it yet

+1...

Quote from STROBE :

Indeed, it's been discussed many a time. But I see no reason why a Gold driver should be excluded from the racing on the XFG/XRG server if those are the cars they like. They should just be excluded from the points calculations, and roughly speaking, the points assigned as if they weren't there.

Sorry but I do not agree.
Gaining points and ascending the CTRA ladder should be slow enough so that you get enough experience before you can access other (higher?) race servers. That keeps the newbies such as me out of the way.
However the problem arises for already experienced racers who want to access CTRA, they will not accept to spend hours on race1 / SS1 before they get into more "advanced" racing.
There may be an alternative solution between these racers and CTRA admins? Direct Gold license under probation or something the like?

Seeing my points progress over a few races I think access to higher level licenses is good, and definitely not too slow. So keeping higher than gold out of points distribution would ruin the system. Plus I like to learn and race with them!

Quote from pine-fin :

An another incident (not on ctra)
One anonymous driver was 1-2 seconds faster than me. Still, he couldnt pass me because I drove a defensive line, and nailed all apexes before long straights. Yep, he was mad as hell allright. Driving a defensive line is not blocking is it? It is allowed to change racing line once and go back (though I didnt do this). He was faster than me, but still he cant pass me? And according to him, "I suck!"

Well, you sure are hard to pass when you are at it .
Thanks for the fights on CTRA1! To hell with points, what I'm looking for is close racing at my level (said politely beginner) and I find that easily on CTRA1.
As a bonus I also find fast guys who share advice and setups.
So yes I got S2 and jumped straight into CTRA1 server, and I find my learning curve there is pretty good and I have fun.
I also see no point in practicing offline after you get decent lines for a track, after all this is a racing sim.
Keep LFS welcoming for newbies or it will die...